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In AC, I play UTH, but my local casino added Texas Hold 'em Bonus instead. What's the general opinion of this game? I've played it a couple times, but didn't really enjoy it much, I played even for half an hour and cashed out.
Is there an easy to remember strategy?

NickyDim

you commit to play every hand and see the flop. Whether you bet the turn and river depend on how good the flop was. We play this game alot, about as much as UTH. It hurts when you are THB and you make a flush or better...you get even money on the ante and no odds and no bonus. Same when you get AKsuited when sitting at UTH. And you know you'll always be at the wrong table when they happen. I like the game, but if I had to choose to play one and one only I play UTH.

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s2dbaker

In Atlantic City, you don't get paid on the Ante unless you have a Flush or better. This changes the strategy a tiny bit. In Atlantic City you fold on the following hands:
2-3 Unsuited
2-4 Unsuited
2-5 Unsuited
2-6 Unsuited
2-7 Unsuited
3-4 Unsuited
Everything else plays. If your two cards are suited, you play.
You raise on the turn in the following circumstances:
The cards in the flop improve your hand (Any Pair or better even 2s or 3s)
Your hole cards are A-10 or better OR a pair of 4s or better.
You have an outside straight or four to a flush.
You raise the river in the following circumstances:
The cards in the flop and turn improve your hand (Any Pair or better even 2s or 3s)
Your hole cards are A-10 or better OR a pair of 4s or better.
I have been lucky playing by those rules but pictured below is proof that I do not follow my own rules 100% of the time:
Notice that I didn't bet the turn when I should have.

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tringlomane

Since you don't get paid on the ante without a flush or better, that changes my strategy to 'don't play this game'.

dwheatley

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THB
CON: I don't like THB because you have to put out 3x the min on almost every hand (folding only the very worst x2 hands). You are often putting out the flop bet with a terrible hand. When you do hit a good hand, you can only risk 1 + 1 more bets.
PRO: I do like the multiple decision points that keep you thinking at every street.
CON: I really don't like the bonus bet, because I get harassed for not playing it.
UTH:
PRO: You put out lots of money when you have a good hand, that feels like good poker to me, and makes me feel better about betting my money.
CON: with a 4x hand, you only have 1 decision point (although you are usually happy to sit back and wait for your payday)
PRO: You can safely not play trips, because when it does pay, you usually are getting paid on your main bets anyway, so people don't call you names.
THB's cons are UTH's pros. I much prefer UTH for my -EV carny play.

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odiousgambit

Wizard covers it.
http://wizardofodds.com/games/texas-hold-em-bonus/
The Element of Risk is good as long as the ante pays on straights. This looks very important to confirm. The strategy is simple to start out, not sure why there is no advice after that. Good poker sense rules?

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odiousgambit

played this online http://www.texas-holdem-bonus.com/

seems like a lot of your decisions revolve around whether you have a good kicker or not.
If I make it to WoV II, they might have this game going [they have it acc to website]

tringlomane

Your local casino's management sounds like idiots. Please forgive me if the inventor of THB actually posts here.

odiousgambit

Your local casino's management sounds like idiots.

Texas Holdem Bonus seems to have made a case to at least 2 casinos around PA/WV to have said game instead of UTH, I suspect more than 2. Unfortunately Meadows at least has gone for the shittier pay on the antie [needs flush].
Maybe the other selling point is the simplicity for the dealers. There is no qualifying hand for the dealer; less confusing situations seem to arise where one bet pushes, the other loses, the other wins even though no qualifier etc. I keep telling myself I have to watch for such dealer error in UTH, or don't play, should I ever do so.
'If the dealer has the higher hand the player will lose all wagers, except possibly the Bonus bet' per WoO site. The Ante bet wins or pushes if the player has won the hand, not too hard to remember.
What about the Bonus bet, you say? It has to be much easier to think of as an independent side bet.
I have not had the opportunity to play it or UTH, so there's that.
PS: I'm not sure where the dealer edge is! What am I missing? Essentially the dealer is stuck calling all your bets, you are stuck calling only your initial bets.

chefphydeaux

My local area casinos have both THB and UTH. I prefer UTH much more. Yea Im a silly ploppy who will play the trips bet at the game. I very very rarely play THB.
The way I see it it THB is a 2 card game, while UTH is a 7 card game. As described, THB pays even money across the board, only on the Ante with either a straight or flush, and better. It seems to be the money to be won in the game is the bonus bet, any pair or Ace/Face paying out. Gets me to thinking, what about a 5$ ante and 5$ bonus bet strategy, no winner? fold it. Winner ? tuck it and collect. At least one of my area casinos will allow you to play the bonus with out paying to see the flop, ect. Just ante and bonus bet.
UTH on the other hand, will pay you odds on a made hand straight or better on the blind, and trips and better on the.... wait for it..... trips bet. Again my local joints will allow you to 'fold' the play bets and only play the trips bet if you feel the dealer will beat your hand, even holding a paying trips bet.
Example: 4 to a flush on the board for community cards, and your stuck holding the 2 of said suit. You feel dealer has the flush as well, beating yours. Just tuck the cards under the trips bet, and fold the ante/blind bet.
While the trips bet is a sucker bet, according to the numbers, it seems to me that everyone I see not playing it almost always walks away poorer than they sat down, and the suckers winning money always seem to be on the trips.
I have had some absolutely absurd luck on the trips bet. Considering I play about 40 hands a month of the game, I have managed to hit 2 royals, 3 straight flushes, and 5 or 6 quads, all with a 2 unit bet up. Im normally a nickle a spot guy at the game, but occasionally just for S & G, bet a dime on each. All of those hands have been made on the turn/river never on the flop. I cannot count the number of other trips bet winners. Just absurd luck, pure and simple.

snorkleboy13

What would the optimum Trips bet for UTH be and how would you calculate it? For example, if you play $25 ante / $25 blind and you want to include the trips bets, should you bet $25 or a different amount to account for different probabilities?
Thanks!!

Ibeatyouraces

The optimal bet is $0.00. But if your going to play it, I say table minimum.

beachbumbabs
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The optimal bet is $0.00. But if your going to play it, I say table minimum.

I sort of agree. The trips bet is a lot of fun, so to me that has value. I try to help pay for it by keeping to table minimum, and playing at least 2x that amount on the ante. I'd prefer to play 3x, but my br won't support that at the moment, with properly aggressive betting averaging about $65/hand, not including the $5 trips. But unless you're running bonus hot, it's a steady drain on your funds, and most of your overall win usually comes from the main game.
A better strategy is probably to be extremely aggressive with the finer points of 4x, 2x, and kicker bets with those same dollars. Plenty of adrenaline rush in a 50.1% 4-bet.

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snorkleboy13

I feel good about my grasp of the strategy. I never hesitate to go 4X as long as it meets the strategy guidelines. I also follow 2X and 1X as well.
Perhaps it would be better to position my question more along the lines of bankroll management. Yes, I could avoid trips completely, but call me crazy, call me a wildman, call me the casino's best friend, but I like having the additional chance with each hand. So I started to think of it in terms of the question I asked - Is there a sweet spot bet that will give me an acceptable return when I hit, but also an acceptable loss when I don't. I'm not a big player, so I've been playing 25A / 25B / 10T as an example. So it takes 5 hands for the trips bet to equal 2 antes / blinds.
I'm not proficient in all of the calculations of odds, probabilities, risk of ruin etc. but common sense tells me that risk of ruin would go down, but to what degree.
One other thing, I think the bankroll size be 20X the combined ante/blind (no trips). Thoughts on that?
Please feel free to math the hell out of this and help me learn the calcs. And thank you.

Ibeatyouraces

What pay table does the casino you play at use for the trips bet?

snorkleboy13

What pay table does the casino you play at use for the trips bet?

Most are 50-40-30-8-7-4-3beachbumbabs
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